Thread:Draft227/@comment-24186365-20150926114843

So... Remember the thing that you said about making another new universe like RSR, but set in modern times? Seems like I'm gonna start discussing it in this wall  :)

So... You said that the setting is around the 1940s until now, right (around the 2000s until now)?

And remember that I said that I'm the one who is gonna work on the "minor" heroes? Heh... I somehow planned to help you in the main heroes. Anyways... I am gonna inform you something however:

I think for me, this universe is going to be a little bit hard to be worked on, as our RSR is easier because it is created through connected events. However, our new universe is not like that, it is like the real Marvel/DC comics. We go on single stories with no major events, then we lead it up to bigger events, now that is hard. RSR is a reverse of that: We start off with the main events, and then the smaller things/normal comics appear there.

Other than that, it is no problem... So, first, I shall propose my idea to you, a bit. Remember... I'm just a "minor dude"...

First, our universe may be like, (I know this sounds cliche but) the MCU, but with our own twists. I know, I remember that there is another one universe here that resembles MCU (I don't remember the name but it has like, the Age of Ultron kind of stuff, but Ultron is replaced with Brainiac, Thor is replaced with Wonder Woman, etc). But remember, we're not just limited to DC or Marvel or Image or Dark Horse, right?

Now, I think you're wondering, "how are we going to make such thing like MCU to happen"? Remember the real MCU? Smaller movies led up to bigger movies? We're probably gonna go like that. Like, the movies are instead "mini series" or just comics, then it led to a bigger thing like... Let's just say, "the Avengers". But remember, we can put some twists that make our "Avengers" totally different! Like what have we done to RSR. Take a look at our Winter Guard. In the real Marvel comics, the Winter Guard is 70% more different than ours...

I remember that once you mentioned "Batman" in our convo about this new universe right? I am gonna provide the design (as well as the others, possibly) picture at the end of this wall.

Oh well... I am gonna provide Batman's backstory idea... SPOILER ALERT: My idea might be a bit... Nevermind. Believe it or not, prepare for what I'm gonna "unleash". Like any other stuffs, you can revision it if you want. Though I suggest that we kick off our universe with some Marvel plus a bit of an Image comics feeling.

Batman's real identity is... (Sigh) Thomas Wayne. Yes, you got it. This idea was based on the Flashpoint timeline in DC. But I am putting a Spider-Ben twist here. You'll see the twist once you read my idea of his backstory.

Thomas Wayne was born to two successful parents that ran the notorious Wayne Industries. Parents' name? Solomon Wayne (daddy) and Marion Wayne (I actually wanted it to be an Indiana Jones reference for Thomas' mother's name...). Well, Wayne Industries is one of the greatest and richest companies in the US. However, the company's main "base" was located in Gotham City, and as you know... The city has a high crime rate, which puts nearly every people in the city in danger. Thomas was a victim of it. ''Pay attention now, because the Spider-Ben and Flashpoint Inspiration is coming now. ''Due to the high crime rate of the city, Thomas Wayne, who that time is the CEO of Wayne Industries, decided to become a "hero" to reduce, or even stop the flow of crime in the city. He trained in nearly all of the martial arts around the world, and trained with guns. Of course it wastes his time a lot, especially with his son, Bruce and wife, Martha. Until one day, his vigilante life made him a hot topic across the GCPD, and the crime gangs around the city began to fear him, except one: Wilson Fisk (yep, that dude. But not yet THAT dude, if you know what I mean). Fisk grew tired of Thomas' "Batman" actions and decided to take a counter attack. After several investigations (illegal), finally, Fisk knew that Thomas was in fact, the Batman. Then, Fisk hired a sniper to try to kill him, or potentially his family. Then, the assassin started his job when Thomas was walking out in the open after watching a movie (not an opera this time, and note that this time, the killing is OUT IN THE OPEN), with his family of course. Then, the sniper cocked his gun, but before he can pull the trigger, Thomas spotted him and tried to warn his family to run. The sniper fired it, but then hell breaks loose: Bruce and Martha got killed, and Thomas himself got shot, in the head. Amazingly, Thomas actually survived, but with a brief amnesia and a two day coma. After he recovered, his psychic however, got wrecked, and he got the personality of the Batman we know... And that, is when the true "Batman persona" was born. Thomas continued his vigilante life... But in a much more violent way.... That's my idea for his backstory, and can you spot the Spider-Ben/Aunt May's Death reference above?

Anyways, that's all for now, though I still can reply to your next replies here unless I sleep. And as I promised, I will provide the designs, if I could. ''Note: I just provide the design. You may provide the backstory, if you want. But some heroes, if I worked on the design story and groups, etc... It might be a bit weird and unexpected for you....''

[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/a/af/Insurgency_Batman.png/revision/latest?cb=20140527151543 Thomas Wayne, AKA Batman. Design is from Injustice, from his Insurgency suit.]

[https://41.media.tumblr.com/b35d60ee2bff647c6ee0300c14916136/tumblr_nlsw4tVSim1qjzyxso1_540.jpg Going real-Post-Convergence for Superman... I got an idea for his backstory (adult life before being a hero) but... You will not expect what will happen... Though imo, that design is good... No arrogancy intended. Damn me...]

[http://www.comofazer.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/tumblr_m8ke9pLNlv1rxlwjxo1_1280.jpg Plain strength, pure rage for Hulk. Classic things are good for him. But one still remained for him: HULK SMASH!]

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I am a good fan of Benjamin Grimm! Well, he is a bit underused or underrated in some ways. But I think he would be an awesome addition to our new universe! Well, the pic might be small, but I got another one. However... It has a writing below and I lost my GIMP, so I cannot cut it... Still, badass art for him, I think. My idea for him is that, he is not part of the F4, he is purely on his own.] .

Bigger image for Thing, but as I said, writing below.

[http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/552d6f59e4b03e63760f7984/1429040995850/captain-america-captain-style-iron-man-armor-captain-iron .... No reaction for Cap....]

[http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/illustrators23/JuggernautColossus3a.jpg I don't know but... I think we could not leave him alone....]

Green Arrow: Hawkeye's replacement for our "Avengers", perhaps?

[http://img05.deviantart.net/18f1/i/2014/101/5/f/dr__manhattan_by_deadrustedtree-d7e19cp.jpg .... Ouch.... Doc... How hard is it to incorporate you?]

[http://popcritica.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/iron-man-3-concept-art-by-andy-park-mark-42.jpg Iron Man. Honestly, I think we need a new name for him this time...]  (Real name I mean)

[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/eb/98/28/eb98289889183535988fe66f756a90c8.jpg Hulkbuster armor. In case my idea of the Hulk getting loose during the mid times as a member of the Avengers got real and the rest of the Avengers needed to stop him down...]

[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/avengers-initiative/images/9/9b/Zzzax.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130104030450 My first "minor" (lesser known is the meaning of minor) villain. Remember him? If not.. Ooh... You forgot about Hulk's old rogue gallery lol. This guy is named Zzzax]

Black Knight, 16 years old version, young hero.  [https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9e/4d/52/9e4d5254a682e34b63b862f95ec7d00b.jpg Or old Dane Whitman Black Knight? It is up to you].

The Strange Doctor is in the house.

This is Karate Kid, but the suit somehow reminds me of Heroic Age Iron Fist...

Well, that's all for now 