Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3291355-20140813233204/@comment-186.52.5.80-20140814002207

1) You definetely didn't realize that part of Iron Man 3 which was a big message to America's War on Terror. Or how Captain America touched a topic related to the NSA, and how governments are willing to sacrifice safety for freedom. In Iron Man we saw the main character suffering from PTSD, and the tone of Captain America was overall serious. The War on Terror or the NSA aren't topics for little kids.

2) That's definetely a personal opinion, which I differ. Captain America's origin was well made, as well as Thor's. Iron Man's is definetely the best of them all. And of Hulk's we only got some flashback scenes during the intro of TIH. But other aspects of the universe were well adapted, the Howling Commandos, Asgard, the Warriors Three, Peper Potts, Jim Rhodes, and a big etc.

3) If scenes like the entire final half hour of Avengers, the Malibu Mansion attack, the battle at the Norco, almost every action scene of CA:TWS or Thor vs. Malekith weren't adrenaline-inducing to you... Not to mention the movies still handle the balance between seriousness and humor fairly well, specially CA:TWS.

4) Yeah. No. Producers are people we should be somewhat greatful for. Specially Kevin Feige, who build up the MCU as we know it. It was even his idea for S.H.I.E.L.D. to go kaput. Iron Man 3 was an entire movie focused on character development for Tony Stark. Throughout the movie he discovered that he was Iron Man, and not the suit. How we went from thinking that the suit was a part of him to being able to let it go.

5) "Crammed with plot holes." And you only mention one. Which is not one of the worst kind of plotholes, it doesn't contradict anything. It's just missing information which still can be added.

6) Did you get that part in which Tony Stark suffered from a mental illness, right? He wasn't sleeping well, he was paranoid. And as far as I know: 1) He couldn't do anything to stop the missiles from coming once he discovered they were coming. 2) How is the building of MK I similar to that? 3) Didn't he take out 2 out of 3 helicopters?

7) Maybe one of a hundred of critics recognize what's wrong with the MCU because there aren't many wrong things and that one critic stretches as much as he can and digs as deep as he can to make those "wrong things" appear.

8) Saying that other movies like the Sam Raimi movies respected the source material more than the MCU does is just completely wrong. Organic web-shooters? Mary Jane in highschool and first love? The overall nature of Doc Ock as a noble scientist? Don't even get me started on Spider-Man 3. The MCU still combines a lot of aspects from the comic. One of the best examples can be again CA:TWS, how many of its scenes were taken directly from the storyline. And as far as I see, Thor and Cap still seem really similar to their 616 counterparts. Vain warrior who was thaught humanity? Check. Noble man who lives up for freedom even if that puts him against those who give him orders? Check.

9) That’s false, although it was a funny joke made by HISHE, it’s completely false. In The Incredibles, Syndrome wanted to have revenge on Mr. Incredible, in Iron Man 3, Killian didn’t care about Tony, neither wanted to have revenge on him. He didn't realize that Tony was responsible for "making him" until they met in the basement (where Killian even says "Actually, I should thank you"). It might have been similar to The Incredibles, but the main aspect that would’ve made them similar is completely absent.

Obadiah Stane was cold and manipulative, with a scary-looking armor. Loki is still an example of a good villain. Abomination was good too, he only wanted a good fight and power, like an anti-Hulk. Malekith was indeed underdeveloped. I still haven't watched it, but I heard Ronan was really good in GotG, and Nebula too.

And I wanted to save a paragraph to talk about my favorite MCU villain which also happens to be the most underrated: Whiplash. I still don't understand how can't people see that he was one of the most successful MCU villains. He managed to put the world against Tony Stark by attacking him (he didn't even have to defeat him). He managed to decieve Justin Hammer and ended up controlling an entire army of drones with which he rampaged through Stark Expo and managed to destroy the physical embodiment of the Stark legacy. Anton wasn't wrong when he said "You lose," because unlike the other villains, he did achieve something in the end.

10) I see many people who didn't get how the "Banner controlling the Hulk" thing works. Banner can turn into the Hulk (like it happened in the end of TIH or in the final battle of The Avengers). But he can't not turn into the Hulk (like it happened in the Helicarrier). So many people still don't get it...